Create lists of software needed for a desktop system
The NetBSD Project
Status: Closed
Time to complete: 96 hrs
Mentors: Aleksej Saushev, Julian Coleman, Julian Fagir
NetBSD itself is a very puristic operating system. It doesn't deliver much in its base except for the things really needed.
As such, it does not provide software you would usually install on your desktop system like a graphical editor, Firefox, etc.
In this task, you have to create a list of applications that are needed (only abstract, like "chatting"), and then propose a list of current software used for that and which one you would provide to a user.
The goal is to create a list of the applications, and a list of pros and cons of the single packages and why you would recommend them (or not).
Uploaded Work
| File name/URL | File size | Date submitted | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Desktop Software.rtf | 5.0 KB | December 02 2012 23:24 UTC | |
| NETBSD.txt | 6.9 KB | December 09 2012 07:27 UTC | |
| NETBSD.txt | 7.8 KB | December 09 2012 13:17 UTC | |
| NetBSD Software.rtf | 9.1 KB | January 04 2013 01:11 UTC |
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This task has been assigned to Catherine C. You have 96 hours to complete this task, good luck!
For the list of applications, pros and cons, etc, would it be alright if I just compiled what I find into a word document or is there a certain way or format prefered>
Hi,
please do anything, but not a word document. ;-)
The easiest format would be plaintext, as you create e.g. with the notepad editor. An OpenOffice-document would be fine as well. You could also create a wiki page in our wiki if you want, just ask for an account - we need your mail address and username for that (via mail on netbsd-users@netbsd.org or on IRC: #netbsd-code on Freenode).
Regards, Julian
You should provide list in the format
category1/package1
category2/package2
...
categoryN/packageN
This is file format expected by pkg_chk and pbulk.
If you cannot find package, you should mention that pkgsrc lacks it.
In this case you should also check pkgsrc/doc/TODO and note separatly, whether package is absent and in TODO or whether it is absent from TODO either.
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Please, get in touch with us (preferrably, me, so that I know) to discuss your progress.
Hello,
I will have this task completed tonight. Thanks!
Hello,
Can you submit drafts for preview so that we have time to resolve issues in case of misunderstanding?
Here is what I have so far. Is there any way of extending the time just a few more hours? I am almost done, and I have worked hard on this task. It would be unfortunate to loose it.
Thanks!
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The deadline of the task has been extended with 0 days and 12 hours.
Please, convert all your lists to the format described above, and all your notes to plain text or HTML.
For lists the format (plain text with category/package on separate lines) is _hard_ requirement. It is what our tools expect as input.
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I chatted with DevJ this evening, and cleared up that the work submitted so far was not exactly what we were looking for - not a general computer list, but specific to NetBSD. I pointed him at pkgsrc.
It's clear he's done a fair amount of work on it, but with school tomorrow, he will need extra time, so I extended by a day and asked him to check in tomorrow.
Melange has detected that the final deadline has passed and it has reopened the task.
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This task has been assigned to Shrikanth Upadhyaya. You have 96 hours to complete this task, good luck!
Hi!This is not hard task, by this time you should have it almost finished. Start publishing it. Contact us on #netbsd-code, if you have questions.
I've finished the work, if it needs more work, please send it back!
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First, the report is misleading. I don't see Chromium in pkgsrc. Which package is it in?
Second, I don't see how you have compared Chromium to Firefox, if the former doesn't work yet as you report.
Your report is not consistent with your claim that Chromium is in pkgsrc either. Have you tried installing packages at all?
Next, Firefox and Chromium are not the only web browsers out there. Why have you omitted other alternatives?
The list of package dependencies is incoherent, you mix really sensible dependencies like GTK2 and low-level stuff like Boost or libffi. Why does the latter matter when you talk about desktop software?
Next, the list itself is incoherent. There're bittorrent clients but no mail clients. Have people stopped using e-mail? I don't think so.
You make your list sound as if there's the only IM client, pidgin. Why? Is it really the only option?
The same applies to LibreOffice, is it the only office suite option?
The same applies to video players. Why is VLC the only option?
Next, you should consistently use commonly used names for packages, which are "category/package" rather than "./category/package".
And the last, but not the least. Have you read discussion above? Why does you report not address issues raised there?
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Chromium is in pkgsrc. it is at wip/chromium.
I did see other alternatives, but you asked for software "you would give to a user." So, I omitted other alternatives.
Also, all the dependencies are the ones I picked up from pgsrc itself. If you have any problems with that, I suggest you check pkgsrc yourself.
Yes, I do admit I forgot mail clients. I will fix that now.
For all the rest, I reiterate :
I did see other alternatives, but you asked for software "you would give to a user." So, I omitted other alternatives.
Also, I do not understand what you mean by "address the issues raised in the discussion." My list is in the same pattern. It is also in the plaintext format. All the software is NetBSD specific.
Also, I will need some extra time if you want me to add alternatives to the list, as I it is ~7 PM here, and I have school tomorrow.
I hope I addressed all the issues.
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Sorry, I cannot accept it in this form.
First, you claim that Chromium is in pkgsrc, but it isn't there. And the way you report it, it looks as if you have never tried to install. That is, your report is just compilation work, which wasn't the only part of this task.
Second, your report still violates requirements. See my comment as of November 28 2012 08:25 UTC.
You haven't addressed the issue with list of dependencies. You continue to mix essential and non-essential ones.
You haven't addressed the issue with video players. VLC is not the only usable option there.
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YEs, I will work on those now. Can I work on this task again?
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You can find us on #netbsd-code.
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Hi!
Please, note, that this is not trivial task. If you have questions, I suggest that you discuss it with us.
Yes,
I do have a few questions, can you please provide me your email, so I can ask them.
Thanks,
Soham M.
Hi,
the intended platform for communication is the IRC channel (#netbsd-code on Freenode). You can see how to get there in our GCi-wiki: http://komkon2.de/nbwiki.
If you have larger questions, maybe ask them here. This is the place where all the addressed mentors can read it and get notified. We have a mailing list (netbsd-users) you could also use, but this one is rather inappropriate (and you have to prepend your topic with [GCi] such that readers know what it is about).
Regards, Julian
So I have compiled a list of preffered softwares for the "bare" NetBSD OS. But I do not understand how you would like us to find the packages (for example : Transmission -- "./net/Transmission"). Will I need to be running on the NetBSD OS or a Ubuntu machine? As of now I am working on a Mac OS machine.
Thanks,
Soham M.
Hi,
the task is to just create a list of possible applications people want to use, and propose solutions (i.e. specific software) for this application.
You should look up if the software is in pkgsrc, and say whether it is and if so, where it is.
One example (in reality, there are more browsers to consider, and you should elaborate more what are pros/cons of the single softwares):
Browser
You don't have to check whether they actually run on NetBSD, or what you have to do to get them running. You should also take yourself into account, i.e. what are the applications (not the specific software) you use your computer for?
Ok, Thank you that really cleared up things. I will make sure to have the task done and submitted before the deadline.
Thanks,
Soham M.
Hi,
Due to internet problems with our ISP, I was unable to work on this task, I am almost done, and I just require a 12 hour extension.
Thanks for Understanding,
Soham More
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I just reviewed the list. There are a few oddities, like you listing Windows software (which will not run as easy on NetBSD). But you did exactly what should have been done, and there is a bit software I didn't even know yet.
Thank you!
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